← Ing. Ondřej Prokop

Mluvčí 01: You already know my guest today. I will not go around the hot coals, here is a photographer Frantisek Jirásek, who has already received an invitation to my studio for the second time. He is a bit of a living legend, because he has been photographing singers and celebrities for half a century. He became famous by being a court photographer of Karl Gott. I will talk to him about how he developed and changed the music industry and what he advises young artists. Hi Franto, there are some new photos, which we haven't seen for a couple of months. There are new photos almost every day. Now, before Christmas, it's a thing, as we said, posters, concerts, meetings, family photos. I just do it day by day and I work it out in the evening, my final one is that I come in 11-12 hours from some event and in 4-5 hours I send those photos to those people, so they always write to me and did you sleep at all? So it's like I slept sometimes from 12 to 3, I wake up and instead of the first night in the morning I'm going to take pictures. And I say to myself, first I'll translate them, I'll look at it, and when I start to see them, I can't get away from it, and in 7 hours they're done, and we're sending them over the shelter, and I'm writing to those people, friends, enjoy the photos, I'm going to bed. Ty samozřejmě fotíš jako profesionálně, ale fotíš někdy i jako ve volném čase, jenom jako pro svůj vlastní zábavu, nebo už máš tak znechucený ten fotoaparát, že... Ne, já ho nemám vůbec znechucený, to nemám, fotím, ale vysloveně to jsou jenom rodinný věci, který fotím pro sebe, třeba u stromku, nebo prostě u někoho jiného v rodině, ale já nemám čas vůbec na soukromý fotcení, člověče vůbec, kromě dovolených, Mluvčí 00: where I can´t get, because it´s not allowed, so it´s all work photos. It can be said that even if the photos are created as private or rest photos, they are only work photos, because someone ordered them. Mluvčí 01: And are your private photos different than what you do as a profile? Mluvčí 00: Well, I do it, I do it as a follow-up, I'm the kind of person who can't just take a picture of the digital, so I can't just keep the photos on a hard drive or a CD, DVD or a flash drive or anything. I just deal with it now so that I'm interested in every action I'm interested in. And it´s like for someone else, but when I´m interested in something, I´m taking those photos for myself, I´m sending them to my production and I´m making them into an album. So I can´t imagine my stock of albums at home. I have over 100 albums, which I´m just filling with photos and I´ve even managed to buy the biggest albums and I´m making the smallest photos. so that I don't get 6,8 or 9, so I'm really doing this photo in the album, if you have it well organized, it will last 100 years, which of course doesn't apply to me long ago, but I still have it rooted in me that it will last 100 years Mluvčí 01: I like to take amateur photos, but I don't like to mix photos. I was in Africa with my wife for 14 days, we were on the road and I brought over 800 photos. And I have to choose one photo, which is the best. You're talking about 800 photos? My action, whatever, Mluvčí 00: There are 15,000-2000 photos, which I carry home every day. And I work on them. And I have the first exercise in it. You probably don't like it, but I have fingers like this, I don't want to poke, I poke slowly, fingers like this, I can see it right away. And now I have a pen with a paper and a number. So I will take about 100 photos, which are good. And maybe 20 photos, which are great. No a tak to prostě, ale těch sto fotek pošlu tomu zákazníkovi, jo, protože zase můžu mít jiný vokal, než má on, takže já vlastně ho nechám ten úplně ten nejúžší výběr i na něm, ale sám se udělám taky pro sebe. Mluvčí 01: Já vlastně na profifotografech, který já občas používám na svoje akce nebo fotcení třeba kampaně, tak já si právě jako nejvíc vážím toho, že z toho všeho pošle pár těch úplně jako nejlepších a že už se tím jako zákazník nemusí něco vylabovat. Mluvčí 00: Je pravda, že tohle mi někdo vyčítá, já se k tomu opravdu přiznávám, ale mě je líto, že když těch fotek, víš co, s dvou tisíc vybereš opravdu dost dobrý fotek. A mě je zase úplně líto, že bych je ještě zůžil a fakt jich vybral dvacet, protože ten člověk potom se na to může podívat a říká, ale mě by se víc líbila tahle a ona tam nebude. A mě to právě to je, to je to blbý, vždycky říkám nezlobte se na mě sorry, ale dovyberte si to sami, je to takový, je to fakt věc názorů, ale já zase mě úplně líto ochudit lidi o ty dobrý fotky, ty zapadnou potom, k tomu se nevrátíš. Mluvčí 01: V podstatě kromě fotcení, ty jsi i v hudebním průmyslu, ty jsi manažer hudebníků a děláš to už několik desetiletí. Mluvčí 00: No tak manažer jsem úplně nebyl, byl jsem vždycky spíš poradce, když se sebou někdo radil, ale manažer jsem až teď asi dva roky, jak jsi tady měl minulé mího Nikolase, tak toho jsem manažer na plný úvazek. So now I have really two jobs, but really hard two jobs, because I have a lot of employees, because we are constantly talking on the phone, we are constantly meeting, we are constantly coordinating, there was a lot of work around the CD, we are arranging more and more concerts, for example, I can prepare a soup now for next October 11, If someone wants to come, he will have his first concert in Prague at Šimona and Jůda on František and it will be great, including some guests, which we have already announced and I think it could be very interesting for people, for fans of Nikoláš, because he has more and more of them. Mluvčí 01: We'll get to Nikoláš yet. Jak se okolo toho motáš, okolo toho hudebního průmyslu, fakt těch desítky let, tak změnilo se to za tebe nějak, když jsi začínal před 50 lety, tak oproti tomu dneska. Mluvčí 00: No tak několika hledě se k sem, to můžeš podívat. Za prvé, dost se zhoršily mezhledické vztahy. And they were involved in everything. Not only in music, but also in life, we all know that. There is a big difference in that. Then of course there is a difference in the technique of photography and the technique of work, because back then everything was done for the movies, you had to call them, it took a long time. říkám, že se hlídali ty záběry, když jsem viděl, že teď je špatný záběr, tak zase fotka v haji, to jsem tu vyprávěl určitě, takže to jako samozřejmě se změnilo a co se týče té manažerské práce, já bych řekl, že já jsem teda nedělal nikdy manažera, až teď ho dělám, ale samozřejmě byl jsem celou dobu a byl jsem u těch jednáních, protože jsem s Kaukotem I was in a closet with different people and I saw how it will be played and I learned from it. I did not know if it will suit me, but I was subconsciously shaking and I think that time has accelerated, relationships have worsened. zase práce co se týče mýho focení se zase naopak zjednodušila tím digitálem, ale přesto ten digitál není taková ta kvalita podle mýho, kterou já si představuji, protože ano ostrost se zvedla, ale polotony a všechny takový ty věci zase se ztratili u toho focení, takže já nevím, změnila se ta doba tou rychlostí a tím But otherwise I would say that it is quite good. Mluvčí 01: And what about those musicians, do you think that it is harder or easier today to break through as a new singer than it was before the revolution in the 90s? Mluvčí 00: It is harder, because that time I had to progress gradually, slowly. a opravdu jsi musel shánět tým, musel ti někdo pomohat a to, dneska to víš sám, jak to je, veme někdo telefon, zakřepčí si tady někde s něčím, u toho se nahraje, jak u toho drnká a už je to za hodinu nebo za deset minut na internetu. Mluvčí 01: No ale je to na úkor kvality. Mluvčí 00: Je to na úkor kvality, je to těžce na úkor kvality, těžce, protože tím pádem se zahlcuje vlastně to portfolio, lidi se vlastně nevědí, už čem se mají orientovat, There are people in showbusiness or in business, which I don't know and I doubt it. I doubt that you know them, even though you are much younger. And now you are in the choice, someone is oriented in it, but also in the quality. Because of course sometimes it happens, that someone will come up with a good song, which will glorify someone. But it is literally a waste of quality. And I don't like this approach at all. What would you recommend to young singers today, what should they do to succeed? Again, you should probably take some to yourself, even though I'm talking like an old man now, I don't want to talk like a digger, but the truth is that it would be nice to be able to regenerate the quality, so you should actually proceed again seriously and slowly. You should have a composer, he should write something, another should make a text, you should consider if it is worth it and it should go through a phase at some point. If it does not go through a phase, I think that the fast-paced can never be good. Of course, you can say one thing, but it can not have a certain tendency, it can not. It gives itself already. Mluvčí 01: So you prefer to do it a little bit older? A little bit older. So you are talking to Nikoláš Petřího, who is the best interpreter of Karl Gott. It is unbelievable. When he was in my studio, his voice was indistinguishable. Does he have such a voice? How did the cooperation between you two start? Well, I often take pictures of talkshows, restaurants, theatres or cafes. Mluvčí 00: and I was at the bar Graf Netrový, which organizes these talkshows and the guests sing at it and Honza Přeučil was there at that time and with Eva Hrušková and I know them, but not that I would be friends with them, but it occurred to me that I could take a photo with them, so that I would have a photo of Honza Přeučil, a legend for me So I turned around and there was a young man standing next to me and I told him to take a picture of me here. And he said I don't know if. And I said try it and he took a picture of me and I looked at it and I said it's good and he told me. He said to me, if I can't sing, I'll take a picture. And where are you a singer? Well, I sing a little. And what do you sing? So we talked there, then there was another talk show, I saw him there again, he came to me again, he asked me to take a picture with a film orchestra, some songs, that he sings with someone. So I made him some photos, then we met again somewhere and finally the whole family asked me if I would like a manager, that I have a lot of contacts, I know a lot of people, so I said, I'll try to never do it, but when I got to Helen Vondráčková, I said, Martin, you're a 20-year-old manager, what if you taught me something? No, takže jsme se ještě smáli k tomu a on říkal, že když budeme potřebovat něco vědět, tak to ještě s Helenou fotím leta, asi jako Karla. Mluvčí 01: Ten Nikolas má neuvěřitelný talent. Má, má. Je to těkné rozeznání od Karla Gota, když si to člověk pustí. Ale on to nehraje, ale pozor. To jsem se chtěl právě zeptat. Jako do jaký míry je to dár a vrozený a do jaký míry se dá vydřít, aby takhle dokázal. Mluvčí 00: On začal spívat s 15, je mu 21, takže on nic nevydřel. He started with the guitar on Karl Zich, then he found out that his voice is higher and that he likes the tenor arias. So he wanted to look around and he found out that he likes the songs of Karl Zich the most. But again, now we got into another situation, that we are looking around and I will not name those people, but that's about six people who imitate Karl Zich in this republic. Some are there, some are there. I don´t want to name them, I don´t want to name them, I don´t care who is singing. So I said to Nikoláš, please, there is only one way for you. Start nicely on Kája, because it suits you, so that no one would know about you at all. And when you find out that you can do it, let´s quickly set up your own compositions. So we did it in a year. And the next CD, which is planned in a year. there will be only their own songs and for example there would be only bonus for example for Karl, two or three songs. In the end, bonus, like this. That's why I told him, if you're imitating, but he's not an imitator, he sings it with his voice, he speaks like Karol, he sings it a little differently, he sings it in his own way. But again, I told him, if someone imitates you, that you're an imitator, like there are some people here, who have a completely different voice, and when they come to you, they sing like God. And I think that´s wrong. I understand. But the other way around, he speaks more like Karolík sings, so Karolík is not an escapee. Mluvčí 01: I'll play it, I've heard one great song. Do you have the CD? Mluvčí 00: I don't have it yet. So I'll give it to you and I'll have it in the photo. Great. Mluvčí 01: Anyway, I was really surprised how I had him here, Nikoláš. His humility and modesty, which is not seen at all in the show business today. When he was doing the interview with me, he was selling the hall and he was so humble and humble. Mluvčí 00: Can I say that? You can. Jak jsme říkali po tom stranu, jsme říkali a vlastně někdy začínají mluvit normálně. A já jsem říkal, ale on mluví normálně. Mluvčí 01: Ne, protože mi se tady všichni ve studiu mysleli, že to vlastně imituje. Mluvčí 00: A já jsem mu říkal, ne, to je Oldřich nový minulýho století a ten je takovej. ! a ty se tomu prvně nevěřili jako tým a tady vidíš, že on takhle mluví, ať sedí u mě na gauči, nebo někde jinde. Já si myslím, že to je opravdu typický Karel, slušnej. Mluvčí 01: Já si vrátím, že to mě překvapilo, fakt ta skromnost a pokora, to asi není úplně běžný v tomhle biznise. Mluvčí 00: He is probably raised like that and the family is also like that, of course, valuable. They are the kind of people who take care of their boy, their daughter and they are proud of it. The father is proud of it with the mother, the mother takes care of us a lot after the concerts. So we are just such a team, we create and we all try to help him, basically because he deserves it, but mainly because he is the way he is. Mluvčí 01: No protože dneska vnímáš různě ty youtubery a podobně, co jsou takový prostě jako mladí fratci, co si o sobě myslí, že dobili světa, oni jsou populární půl roku, rok a pak často ta kometa zasne, žejo? Mluvčí 00: Ne, ne, to je jako já nevím, já nechci samozřejmě nikoho zase pomlouvat. if they can deal with it and it's good for them to do it, I'm a tolerant person, I don't care who does what and who sings, if there are 5 imitators or 20, I don't care, but I really think that Nikoláš is not an imitator, he is not a plagiarist and the fact that he has a similar voice is an advantage, But he is a tenor singer and if he wants to be a tenor singer, he has to have a wide range. And they were able to sing Nessun Dorma, calmly, from Pavarathy, completely in peace. He just sucks those A's, he just fucks it up, so he doesn't have a problem with it. To je můj hlavní úkol. Mluvčí 01: A máš pod křídlama ještě nějakého začínajícího zpěváka? Já bych to nedal. Mluvčí 00: To mě zaměstnává poměrně dost a já jsem rád, že mě zaměstnává. Víš co, my jezdíme hodně slovenskou, takže já jsem najednou v tomhle věku začal spát po hotelích a tyhle věci. Přes den jsem si někdy něco vyfotil a šel jsem domů a říkal jsem si, tak jsem si vydovřil pivo a večer. Tak to je pryč, to je konec. Já jsem začal žít úplně jiný život. Já jedu dva životy souběžné, fotcení a manažerství. Mluvčí 01: A tebe samotnýho hudební kariéra nikdy nelákala? Mluvčí 00: Já jsem když si měl nabídku z Národního jihladla ze zborů, abych jim tam šel zpívat zbory, jsi jsi nevěděl někde zpívat někde a já vlastně mám takový ten hlas, tak jsem říkal, že bych se tě potřeboval jít do zborů, no já jsem říkal, že to zase čas na to nemám, I do not have a taste. Then, when I was visited by Lord Kája and he was visiting me on my birthday and Christmas, it was his regular, he was visiting me somewhere else, but of course it was like a welcome to Štědryn, in the afternoon Karl Gott came to me and to Karl Štědryn, he was visiting us, he wished that Gott could be with his family in the afternoon, so we sang sometimes. And I sang to him... And Kája said, it's completely clear, I'll take you to the car and we'll go to Přeskokany. So we had such jokes and as far as Nikoláš is concerned, he's finishing, I'm going on in the morning, we're finishing, we have a concert and we've already learned such a thing, that before the chorus, I come to him and sing it to him. at the concert, so of course only a little bit, but I was singing a little bit. In the morning I go further, another hall is waiting for me, so we sing a little bit together and then I go away again and I take pictures again from the left, from the right, so at the same time I'm a manager, I take pictures, I sing, I don't sing, I won't say I sing, it's an allegory, so that's how it was. I wasn't really interested in the career of a singer, but my dad was singing with Standa Procházka. A s Karlem Vldoufem, takže já třeba po někom bych to měl, ale já si na to netroufám, víš co, já ti to říkám popravdě, jako bych si netroufnul vystoupy před lidem zpívat vysloveně jako celý nějakej blok, to bych si asi netroufnul, je zle gracie jo, ale někde, ale opravdu to ne, tak to je, takhle to je no. Mluvčí 01: No tak na jednu stranu mám z toho radost, že takový rozdíl s tím Nikolasem, na druhou stranu, já jsem doufal, že půjdeš pomoct tady do politiky na Praze 11, jsi tady patriot, tak na to už asi čas nezbědět, co? Mluvčí 00: Ale já, když bych nechtěl někomu pomoct, já bych taky rád plno věcí tady změnil, já vím, že to je špatně tohle, tohle, tamto, vnímám to jako ty štuklíče a sleduji to, co kde vyprávíš ty a nebo v televizitě vidím každou chvíli, všechno vnímám, I wish myself changes, which are necessary, they must come, or it will just go to shit. I see that it has to happen, I hope that a lot of things will change, but I can't do it anymore. Mluvčí 01: Hlavně máš v mnohem zabavnější práci, než politikům. Mluvčí 00: Já politikům neopovedu to vůbec, ale víš jaké mám na to já názor, už jsme se o tom bavili, že dnes ten, zítra ten, tenhle názor, tam ten názor, tohle není pro mě, já jsem spíš na ty dlouhodobější cíle. Who are nicer to me and they fill me more. I wouldn't fit in here anyway. You know, in a moment someone would annoy me, I would send him somewhere and it would be like that. I'm quite impulsive. Mluvčí 01: On the contrary, I appreciate it in politics, when someone says it directly, it's much better than doing some backstage games and intrigues. Mluvčí 00: But what else did you meet, you say something to someone directly and what happens? Mluvčí 01: No, řeluje tě a musí se omluvit. No tak vidíš. Mluvčí 00: A pobůže ti to někdy vyšli na rovinu někomu moc ne. Mluvčí 01: Ale já si to ocením, já se takhle chovám. Mluvčí 00: Já vím, já věřím. Mluvčí 01: Ale většina lidí bohužel ne. Mluvčí 00: Bohužel, ta politika to je prostě. I know that someone has to do it, I understand it, I admire you for being able to move in it, you are like a fish in water in it, I understand it. Mluvčí 01: But sometimes it bothers me too, sometimes you are so lost in it that you are frustrated and I would like to go somewhere to sing, but unfortunately I can't. So I'll take you to a concert. Mluvčí 00: A to by vám utekli. Tak budeš pívat třeba kohen, budeš to tam polovit právě. Tak my to sorězujeme, to není problém. Ale ty bys to zvládl. Mluvčí 01: Thank you very much for the interview, it was very nice. I recommend it to the viewers, if you haven't seen it, have a look at Nikoláš Půta, we had an interview, it's very interesting, you can find him on social networks. For me he is really an incredibly talented guy and I say it again, I was surprised by the modesty and humility, because in this young generation, I hardly see it today, they are all masters of the world, they rarely have humility and they want to learn something. He will thank you for everything. Mluvčí 00: Really, he's such a nice guy, really. And again, he doesn't play it, he's just like that. From the edge, neither you nor I believed it, and you can see that it is. Mluvčí 01: I really thought he was imitating it. No, no, no. And then the camera turned off and he was still talking. That's what I told him. Do you know what they asked me there? If it's so good. I said I'm like that. You see it. It's great. Franto thanks. Hi, I'm looking forward to it. Have a nice Christmas. If it's still there. Have a nice Christmas to everyone. Enjoy it.Kopírovat text

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